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Pako
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MessagePosté le: Lun Déc 19, 2005 7:59 pm    Sujet du message: Powerball Therapy Répondre en citant

Hi,

I'd like to start a new topic to talk about solutions for the injuries produced by the use of the powerball. Of course, I think the best one is to rest, but that's not as easy as it sounds. heheheh.

I use following products to help recuperation (although lately I feel no improvement at all):

- Radio Salil
- Voltaren
- Tiger unguent

Have you guys tried any other miracle product? :-)

Pako.
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REGULAR:

speed = 15136 ; 13606(L)
30s = 6662
90s = 18244 ; 17593(R) ; 15558(L)
dual = 27113
reverse = 14233(R) ; 12900(L)

SOUNDBALL:

speed = 14636

METAL:

speed = 13406
90s = 15465
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Posté le: Lun Déc 19, 2005 7:59 pm    Sujet du message: Powerball Therapy

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Adrena1in
Gyro- Godlike


Inscrit le: 26 Sep 2005
Messages: 1839
Localisation: #18 Plastic / #11 Metal / #5 90s Gripper
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MessagePosté le: Mar Déc 20, 2005 10:16 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Blimey, if you can't sleep because of your injuries then you're WAAAAY overdoing it! My "bruised" fingers don't hurt at all unless I Powerball or squeeze my fingers hard with my other hand. I don't feel anything while I move my fingers or clench my fist or anything. Sometimes hurts if I pick up a plate or the dog's bowl.

My worst Powerball injury was in my elbow, after several days of overdoing it. Again, I couldn't feel any pain normally, but if I put my weight on my arm, (such as when getting up from being on the floor, or doing a press-up), my arm would just collapse. Rested for a week or two and it was fine.

I've certainly never had to use creams or drugs to help with injuries. Perhaps I don't push myself enough...perhaps that's why I'll never be a champion.
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250Hz: (L/R)
-> 13603/13785
<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796

350Hz:
-> 11688/11409
<- 12238/13053
90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895
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The Force
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MessagePosté le: Mar Déc 20, 2005 12:09 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Pako,

I told you before. In my humble opinion, you are going way too far. Overtraining, injuries..these are serious risks when using the powerball.

The 22nd of July 2005 I did my 14204rpm record. The 9th of December 2005 I broke my record (not having reach 14k+ for ages). In my case it was a matter of "overtraining" rather than injuries (when you overtrain, your performance starts to drop rather than to increase).

Nevertheless, my father, being medically educated, told me that overtraining costs 6 months to recover from. Well, in my case, it was almost 5 months between the two records, so he was quite right with his prediction.

What is at least certain is that I am warned now and I listen better to my body. I just don't want another overtraining situation.

So, sorry to say this, but rest is the only way to heal from your injuries. What I remember from an inflammation I had is that the docter advised me:

2 weeks of complete rest
then start using the powerball slowly building up with steps of 10% per week, starting at a low level (let's say 10000rpm max, at least a point where you don't feel pain).

So, that was my preaching for today Razz. I hope it will be useful for you and all other readers.

Best regards,

The Force
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Personal records:
Speed:14332(L),14100(R)
30s:6134(L),6214(R),6016(L+R)
60s:10112(L),10257(R),11158(L+R)
90s:14158(L),14378(R),17711(L+R)
Speed Metal:12105***(L),11931(R)
30s Metal:4973(L),5026(R),4788(L+R)
90s Metal:14627(L+R)
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Adrena1in
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MessagePosté le: Mar Déc 20, 2005 2:59 pm    Sujet du message: Re: Powerball Therapy Répondre en citant

Pako a écrit:
Of course, I think the best one is to rest, but that's not as easy as it sounds. heheheh.
Too true. I brought my Metal in to work today, but have to be very strong not to touch it!
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250Hz: (L/R)
-> 13603/13785
<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796

350Hz:
-> 11688/11409
<- 12238/13053
90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895
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Pako
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MessagePosté le: Mar Déc 20, 2005 3:56 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

The Force a écrit:
I told you before. In my humble opinion, you are going way too far. Overtraining, injuries..these are serious risks when using the powerball.


You were right. But I was too addicted to it and was hard to stop. Now I know I have to control myself. I deserve this punishment. :-)

The Force a écrit:
(when you overtrain, your performance starts to drop rather than to increase).


I know this quite well from my gym experience.

The Force a écrit:
In my case it was a matter of "overtraining" rather than injuries


I think my performance has not dropped. I think I could achieve right now 14k, but I would hurt my articulations.

The Force a écrit:
then start using the powerball slowly building up with steps of 10% per week, starting at a low level (let's say 10000rpm max, at least a point where you don't feel pain).


I haven't touched the powerball with right hand since last live comp! And I won't do it until January. Meanwhile I will train my left arm, but less intensity and less time. I don't want to get injured with left also.

The Force a écrit:
So, that was my preaching for today Razz. I hope it will be useful for you and all other readers.


It was. Thanks for all your advices. Now it's up to me to follow them ;-)


Pako.
_________________
REGULAR:

speed = 15136 ; 13606(L)
30s = 6662
90s = 18244 ; 17593(R) ; 15558(L)
dual = 27113
reverse = 14233(R) ; 12900(L)

SOUNDBALL:

speed = 14636

METAL:

speed = 13406
90s = 15465
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The Force
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MessagePosté le: Dim Jan 22, 2006 1:34 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Hi all,

I just bought a nice product (a balsem) for helping my muscles and strings to heal faster from the powerball trainings. Also it is useful for helping your muscles to warm up before you do your workout.

The smell is quite pleasant. A mixture of methol, eucalyptus, kamfer, and many others. Especially nice if you have got a cold Smile.

You can buy this product at

http://www.mill-products.com/




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The Force
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Personal records:
Speed:14332(L),14100(R)
30s:6134(L),6214(R),6016(L+R)
60s:10112(L),10257(R),11158(L+R)
90s:14158(L),14378(R),17711(L+R)
Speed Metal:12105***(L),11931(R)
30s Metal:4973(L),5026(R),4788(L+R)
90s Metal:14627(L+R)
***Done this month
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MessagePosté le: Dim Jan 22, 2006 2:21 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I have tested one, which is very similar: "Tiger Balsem"

It's also chinese and the package is the same.

It warms muscles. I apply when i go to bed, but in the morning the pain comes back, as usual Crying or Very sad

Pako.
_________________
REGULAR:

speed = 15136 ; 13606(L)
30s = 6662
90s = 18244 ; 17593(R) ; 15558(L)
dual = 27113
reverse = 14233(R) ; 12900(L)

SOUNDBALL:

speed = 14636

METAL:

speed = 13406
90s = 15465
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MessagePosté le: Lun Jan 23, 2006 11:26 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I guess I put on a little bit too much yesterday Very Happy. The smell was really so strong that you could smell me coming Smile

The Force
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Personal records:
Speed:14332(L),14100(R)
30s:6134(L),6214(R),6016(L+R)
60s:10112(L),10257(R),11158(L+R)
90s:14158(L),14378(R),17711(L+R)
Speed Metal:12105***(L),11931(R)
30s Metal:4973(L),5026(R),4788(L+R)
90s Metal:14627(L+R)
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Shazam
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MessagePosté le: Lun Jan 23, 2006 12:28 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Those products are good only for muscle pain ( tears and spasms ) not for inflamations of tendons or ligaments (usually the kind of pain I had).

The best things to do are to have rest (and drink a lot to recover faster).
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hugh495
GyrO-Apprenti / beginner


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Localisation: durham UK

MessagePosté le: Mer Mai 16, 2007 5:20 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Hey recently i have found i have over done the powerballing,about a month or 2 ago i got my best record 12837rpm,didnt feel any pain that day but the day after the tendon in my right hand specifically the finger next to the pinkie caused me a lot of pain when powerballing,i left it for 2 weeks but i keep coming back to the powerball and the tendon isnt really healing.
anyway to add to the thread i am trying out 2 things to help with my tendons
1 maximuscle ache-free,claims to be good at maintaining tendons in intense training
had a few before and after my last session and it hasnt helped much

2 tiger balm, found 4 chinese glass things from local pound shop should help muscles from aching

im also going to try out using a stressball to help recovery,but like all have said before the best way is to rest,in my case longer than 2 weeks i just need to remember that!
il post again in a few weeks to tell you if im healed or not!
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Mai 17, 2007 7:02 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

It´s a pity when you get a lesion like yours. Sad
When I started powerballing I had a tendon problem too, but fortunately it healed in a short period, it was not too serious so I left the PB for two days and when I took it back I just used it at low speed, that helped me. Of course if the harm is worse resting is the best solution.

Hope you heal soon. Smile
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MessagePosté le: Ven Juin 08, 2007 5:41 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Well the pills didnt help me much the maximuscle ache free did nothing for me,once in the morning my fingers felt better
the tiger balm works wonders for stiff muscles but no help for tendons
the stressball has helped and also those hand grippers seem to help as long as you dont exert yourself to much
also powerballing at low speeds.
my hands have healed but im going to get back into powerballing slowly and take more rests
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