Discussion about 90s techniques for the new scoreboards

[Obiw4n]

You all know there are different techniques when you do 90s runs:

1) Normal technique: no loosing grip, no edouard technique, full strenght.

2) Loosing grip during hand switch only

3) Edouard technique: 5s loosing grip after a powerfull boost, again and again until the 90s are reached....

This debate is already started on the french forums and I'd like you to react here too...

You all know that the new scoreboards will soon appear on Gyrotek, 90s scorebaords for all, gyrotek monthly board, and we still have infinite possibilities of new scoreboards.

Altough we'd like to keep all those boards clearly understandable for the new people who are coming and consulting it.

The discussion is about what will be allowed or not in 90s, should we create different boards, mix all techniques, put colors etc...??

Your answers added to the same french topic will help us to find a democratic solution
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[Adrena1in]

My Maximum Potential scoreboard clearly shows that the Edouard Technique allows for higher scores, (and your recent Metal 90s scores show that too). If you want to make it a proper and fair challenge then the techniques should be divided into two categories.

1) Those who spin the Powerball to almost maximum speed and then relax their grip and allow the Powerball to spin freely for several seconds, and,

2) Those who maintain a constant tight grip other than when changing hands. (Though there's a fine line between changing hands quickly with a loose grip, and prolonging the changover on purpose for a tiny rest.)

I don't think there should be a final category for those who maintain a constant tight grip, because I try to do that and sometimes the Powerball still spins freely without me wanting it to, especially the Metal.
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<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796

350Hz:
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90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895

[The Force]

I fully agree with Adrena1in. But that's only this time

The Force
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Personal records:
Speed:14332(L),14100(R)
30s:6134(L),6214(R),6016(L+R)
60s:10112(L),10257(R),11158(L+R)
90s:14158(L),14378(R),17711(L+R)
Speed Metal:12105***(L),11931(R)
30s Metal:4973(L),5026(R),4788(L+R)
90s Metal:14627(L+R)
***Done this month

[James M]

Rory himself has endorsed the ed tech so if people choose not use it then there putting themselves at a disadvantage.
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250hz
RH 13655
LH 13074
90s 16108
30s 5784

350hz
RH 11745

[MJ]

You can use two boards, but I wouldn´t mind if it was just one board because the Edouard's Technique is something legal and it´s our choice to make use of it or not.

[The Force]

No I fully disagree with that.

The 90sec strength index is about endurance! And the Edouard style is not fully an endurance mode. Sorry to say this.

Regards,

The Force
P.S. And Rory does not speak necessarily the truth..if you ask me.
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Personal records:
Speed:14332(L),14100(R)
30s:6134(L),6214(R),6016(L+R)
60s:10112(L),10257(R),11158(L+R)
90s:14158(L),14378(R),17711(L+R)
Speed Metal:12105***(L),11931(R)
30s Metal:4973(L),5026(R),4788(L+R)
90s Metal:14627(L+R)
***Done this month

[donkapone]

i agree with the force and disagree with Rory. I think that Ed tech is not something what should be meant to do with powerball. Endurance that is. I feel Ed tech more like cheating if the scores would be in the same board. All the highest scores would be achieved with Ed technique and if you would like to be in the top - you must use Ed technique - brake your powerball that is. I wouldn`t like that. Two boards would be perfect.
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[Adrena1in]

Before an argument starts, Rory's scoreboards have one rule...get the highest possible score with only using your hands. If he allows the Ed Tech on his boards then that's up to him.

Here we're talking about a completely new scoreboard, with possibly different rules. I think Obi just wants to get a concensus and agreement, not an argument about what's "right" or "wrong".
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250Hz: (L/R)
-> 13603/13785
<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796

350Hz:
-> 11688/11409
<- 12238/13053
90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895

[Obiw4n]

Yeah a perfect fair decision doesn't exist....

Yod4 and me were thinking about putting 2 differents colors for each technique, but keeping only one 90s scoreboard.
For me the loosing grip while switching hands was a edouards tech but maybe I have to consider it differently from what I see here...


So this technique here is allowed?

http://bl4dem4ster.free.fr/vincent16671.avi

Would you like to put limits on the hand switch time?
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[James M]

I don't see a problem with that, you're only talking of a couple of seconds and hes spinning the ball the majority of the time.

What ever you decide though I think you should only have one 90's board.
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250hz
RH 13655
LH 13074
90s 16108
30s 5784

350hz
RH 11745

[jimb0_d]

Personally i dont see why anyone has a problem with the Ed technique. Akis doewsnt use it yet he still has the top score on the powerballs.com leaderboard yet ed is only 6th. It is hardly as if his technique is putting him 2000 revs past anybody else. I look upon it is nothing dissimilar to the way you hold a powerball - some pple hold it in an odd position that works best for them yet if somebody else was to do it it would not work for them.

Also without the possibility of experimenting with techniques the sporting would be very borng indeed. A perfect example is high jumping. When the "Fosbury Flop" technique was first used in 1968 im pretty certain ther were those who were against it but if they had simply banned it, it would have prevented the the sport progressing and compeditors today would never be able to achieve jumps anywhere close to what they can do now,

Well that what i think
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RPM: 14102(R) 13194(L)
30s : 6142(R) 5873(L)
60s : 9215(R) 8928(L)
90s : 14532(R) 14150(L) 16908(using both)

[Obiw4n]

But The ed tech is not proven as healthy for a powerball, the way you use the ball is not recommended....
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[James M]

[jimb0_d]

i still dont think that should matter though...

they guy is experimenting and even though its hasnt been proven to be good for a powerball or been proven to be the best technique i can see any reason why scores achieved using it should be treated any differently than score achievend uing the regular way.

Another example of this is darts (i brought ths up bechase people have been tlkin aobut darts on the forums before ) some players like to throw the darts way harder then others because they feel the extra velocity lets them acheive better velocity even though they run the risk of damaging their darts becasue if they hit the wires it will blunt the dart etc etc

does anyone understand what i mean?
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Personal Records:

RPM: 14102(R) 13194(L)
30s : 6142(R) 5873(L)
60s : 9215(R) 8928(L)
90s : 14532(R) 14150(L) 16908(using both)

[Adrena1in]

At the end of the day, there are two points;

1) The Ed. Technique does allow for higher scores.
2) It's your scoreboard Obiw4n, the decision is yours to make.
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250Hz: (L/R)
-> 13603/13785
<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796

350Hz:
-> 11688/11409
<- 12238/13053
90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895