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Adrena1in
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Well, it seems I'm not the only one with an IronPower...Pako's got one too, and uses it for warming up and stuff.
Pako, I ruined my light rotor by drilling a hole and putting a little magnet into it, to see what sort of revs I could achieve in a 250Hz casing. Totally unbalanced the rotor, but I was still able to do about the same sort of revs with it as with a 250Hz rotor. (Rory said that neither he nor his colleagues were ever able to get the light rotor over what he thought was about 11k, but I managed way more.)
Also Pako, is your steel rotor well balanced? Mine isn't...not like the Phantom. However, the aluminium rotor was perfectly balanced and smooth before I screwed it up.
What I'll do, when I find it, is take some photos and videos and do a bit of a review, if anyone's interested. I did take some sound files of the aluminium rotor compared to my 250Hz rotor, and I'll send them to the GMail account. (With my palm over the rotor I could literally use the IronPower "light" in total silence, which I liked. The Phantom "heavy" is far from silent because it still has fins on the rotor...the IronPower rotors are fin-less.)
Tim.
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 1:33 pm Sujet du message: IronPower |
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Obiw4n
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Localisation: Strasbourg // // Metal Speed : 12347 rpm Playmobil Speed: 14147 rpm Metal User
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 1:40 pm Sujet du message: |
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Yesterday i did an experience with Gouidos, he sent me 2 records with only the sound, and I had to find the speed. Im able to find the real speed only with the frequency generated. My precision is about more or less 200 rpm.
It works for any powerball, iron, metal, regulars...
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Adrena1in
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 1:52 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Obiw4n a écrit: | | Im able to find the real speed only with the frequency generated. My precision is about more or less 200 rpm. |
You mentioned something before about confirming a score by using a frequency something-or-other, and I meant to ask you what it was.
You see, I had this idea. I thought how great it would be to have a microphone connected to your computer, and some software that could estimate accurately the speed of a Powerball rotor. You could set this up when doing a 90s endurance, and have it display the current RPM.
The software could also be written to count the number of revs over a certain period, so you could keep a close eye on how well you were doing. I know the bluetooth counter might allow this, but it would have been a good project. However, I wouldn't know where to start. Perhaps this frequency "counter" thing you have would be a good place to start?
So, how fast are my sound files? At the time I guessed about 11800 for the 250Hz and 11400 for the IronPower.
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Obiw4n
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 2:05 pm Sujet du message: |
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10400 for the metal sound, 11200 for the old 250Hz sound +- 200rpm
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Adrena1in
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 2:10 pm Sujet du message: |
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Wow, that low huh? So what is this "thing" you use to determine the speeds? Can you use it on video files? I'd love to know the speeds Akis maintains in his 19689, first with his right hand and then with his left for example. (I reckon he maintains over 14k with his left to start with.)
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250Hz: (L/R)
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Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 2:15 pm Sujet du message: |
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It's easy to determine a speed lower than 12k because i can reproduce it directly with a good precision with my regular, but speeds up to 13k recquire video comparisons and it takes more time
I could find the speed on akis video, but i don't have the time right now, i ll do it another day I think, here is the program I m using:
http://www.relisoft.com/freq.zip
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Pako
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 3:40 pm Sujet du message: Re: IronPower |
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Hi,
| Adrena1in a écrit: | | Also Pako, is your steel rotor well balanced? Mine isn't...not like the Phantom. However, the aluminium rotor was perfectly balanced and smooth before I screwed it up. |
yeah, I think it's quite balanced. Sometimes it does weird soundws (clack-clack) but there is no vibration.
I haven't used the light rotor still, I put inside the heavy rotor as soon as I received the ironpower 
Pako.
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REGULAR:
speed = 15136 ; 13606(L)
30s = 6662
90s = 18244 ; 17593(R) ; 15558(L)
dual = 27113
reverse = 14233(R) ; 12900(L)
SOUNDBALL:
speed = 14636
METAL:
speed = 13406
90s = 15465 |
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Adrena1in
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 5:08 pm Sujet du message: Re: IronPower |
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| Pako a écrit: | yeah, I think it's quite balanced. Sometimes it does weird soundws (clack-clack) but there is no vibration.
I haven't used the light rotor still, I put inside the heavy rotor as soon as I received the ironpower |
I had to get the steel rotor separately...definitely surprised me the first time I used it, and it prepared me for the Phantom.
Wonder if I could get hold of a spare aluminium one...do you want yours? 
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250Hz: (L/R)
-> 13603/13785
<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796
350Hz:
-> 11688/11409
<- 12238/13053
90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895 |
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Pako
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| Posté le: Jeu Jan 05, 2006 5:55 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Adrena1in a écrit: | | Wonder if I could get hold of a spare aluminium one...do you want yours? |
Well... of course i want mine. What do you want it for? Does the aluminium rotor produce the same torque as the regular powerballs? a bit more? Why do u want to train with such a light thing, when u can have the power of the phantom? :-)
I wouldn't mind to lend you my aluminium rotor, but not 4ever!
You wont drill a hole, will you? 
Pako.
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REGULAR:
speed = 15136 ; 13606(L)
30s = 6662
90s = 18244 ; 17593(R) ; 15558(L)
dual = 27113
reverse = 14233(R) ; 12900(L)
SOUNDBALL:
speed = 14636
METAL:
speed = 13406
90s = 15465 |
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Adrena1in
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| Posté le: Mar Jan 10, 2006 3:13 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Pako a écrit: | Well... of course i want mine. What do you want it for? Does the aluminium rotor produce the same torque as the regular powerballs? a bit more?
You wont drill a hole, will you? |
The aluminium one produces a lot less torque than a regular Powerball. Great for very gentle rehab.
I thought it would be nice to get hold of another one to drill lots of holes into, yes!   
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250Hz: (L/R)
-> 13603/13785
<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796
350Hz:
-> 11688/11409
<- 12238/13053
90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895 |
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Pako
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| Posté le: Mar Jan 10, 2006 3:50 pm Sujet du message: |
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| Adrena1in a écrit: | | The aluminium one produces a lot less torque than a regular Powerball. Great for very gentle rehab. |
Would it be safe for my right hand to use the IronPower with Aluminium rotor? It hurts at high speeds, because a very strong grip is required, and that really fucks my articulations / tendons. At least I would keep spinning the ball and maintaining the muscles somewhat on shape. Anyway regular powerballs at low speed shouldn’t hurt me, neither.
Pako.
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REGULAR:
speed = 15136 ; 13606(L)
30s = 6662
90s = 18244 ; 17593(R) ; 15558(L)
dual = 27113
reverse = 14233(R) ; 12900(L)
SOUNDBALL:
speed = 14636
METAL:
speed = 13406
90s = 15465 |
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Adrena1in
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| Posté le: Mar Jan 10, 2006 4:00 pm Sujet du message: |
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Can't believe you've never used the aluminium rotor. 
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250Hz: (L/R)
-> 13603/13785
<- 14026/14974
Dual - 26659
90 - 18705 - 16865/18013
60 - 12206 - 11089/12283
30 - 6383 - 6415/6796
350Hz:
-> 11688/11409
<- 12238/13053
90 - 15799 - 13873/15407
60 - 10597 - 10546/10649
30 - 5362 - 5398/5895 |
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